If they wont/cant cover a client, what do they do? But then again Primerica can do the same thing, but when it came to investigations, Primerica will not have to worry since all the new laws that are going into affect, they have been doing. they then got a plan together with us, and showed us a way. I want to thank all of you for contributing to this highly informative blog! But I am a client. (PFS agents correct me if im wrong). Michael Thomas @ 3:51 pm I am curious why he changed his name? Again, hes grasping at straws Truth: shes a CPA and PFS sees that as a conflict, because of her profession, not her character. Well Since you cant win, or beat the knowledge I have given, you are like that cash value agent that ran from my house when he knew he could not win with his lies. . . Do you know the meaning of the words, you use? Consumer Reports. Its not an all or nothing thing. They say it is to reduce the cost because the TOTAL coverage on husband and wife count towards the age-bands. Cash value is not good for 98% of the people out there and is the cancer for any middle american family. ), I have taken even more advance courses and they still do not talk about these items. Michael has asked for comparisons, but no takers. A pyramid scheme is based on recruiting with the intention of making money off of the entry fees. If a person buys a 100K face amount policy from company A or Primerica for the same duration and they die how much will company A pay compared to what Primerica will pay? Somebody has to drive the bus, as long as its not me. I think toms loyalties are misplaced. Thats who primerica is for. YES..I RESEARCHED FOR SIX MONTH ( a bit irrational but Ill make my point, soon.) Hee-Haw! Tom, you talk about Cancer & LTD. You stated. Really? When you are a parrot repeating the same lingo it is apparent youve given little though to do actual research yourself on the markets or how different asset classes are even correlated. because I already explained to you YOU DONT OWN IT, 15. that would scare me more. Oh the person who is getting your override. Just wanted to clarify my thoughts as I also like to state facts. BY FAR DO NOT QUIT WHAT YOU ARE DOING YOU ARE THE BEST. Since I am not an agent, am not sure if they pay for them, but most business have over head. I am sure that if you said that to your clients they would jump on board. No, since it is a waste of money, like accidental death and dismemberment. My Dad died in Jan 2006, Primerica paid his claim in March. They love it when they compete against expensive cash-value. How to buy Primerica life insurance: Primerica life insurance policies must be purchased through one of its representatives. But you keep going to the price. I have gone over this several times. I am great that Bill has posted some of the companies he sells for. Did you shop individually Opinions have gotten us this far in a ditch. -. Im trying to do as much research as possible, as I am still on the fence with joining or not. You keep saying quality matters to you. Lets examine the help someone got from re-doing their finances: A Primerica bi-weekly mortgage with $6,000 in points (plus closing costs), An overpriced Primarica term life policy (save 30-50% by shopping around). Citi does nto pay for offices, staff, or anything else. Your just building for someone else. Something to consider would be to use an Annuity and a ROP.. Tom is only a client. The reason why any legtitamate company gives you only 40% is so that the heirs cant come back and sue the comapny for taking away their ability to life after the bread winner is dead. Does that mean you will steal from your client, any chance you can? So I did take it with a grain of salt. (OOPS this is free to clients too.). The use of spell check and instead of using the philosophy buy term and invest the difference maybe try buy term and invest the difference only when it makes sense. Go term4sale.com and you will see who was quoted and how many companies spanked Primerica. You are proving the statement: Unless you are selling fear. Its called client LOYALTY! -. Let me just say this. Buy Term invest the difference ONLY!!!!! Primerica Life or the agent will be entitled to recover reasonable attorneys fees and other expenses incurred in the proceeding. Oh wait, something similar *does* exist. You asked why selling only PFS is bad. Now ask one of the RVPs why doesnt PFS just offer a policy that pays to age 100 (or beyond) with a level premium and a level death benefit to combat a cash value policy? I have used analogies for you to understand but it must be over your head. Then theres the issues of a court ordered insurance policy. I do know how it works since I am constantly being recruited. I do not do that. Build up a good book of business and it can be substantial. If you do not sell but you recruit, do you make money, NO. Tom says You are right, but you hit upon one of the biggest cost. IT a policy to cover you for when you need insurance. To protect this investment, and to protect Primerica agents stake in their own commissions and other payments, it is important for Primerica to preserve its customer base and avoid unfair competition. I went to my second Primerica meeting last week. They discussed the number of $100,000 yearly earners and also the total number of Primerica agents IF YOU ARE LICENSED, you will know hands on. Personally it is better to protect them together and have them invest the money they have than to worry about every possible scenario, unless your mission uis to remove all the money from your client and destroy their lives. Something sounds fishy. Thats called the free enterprise system. Kudos to you. I am curious why not comment on the value of the deposit? One reason I like Primerica is that we are reaching people that otherwise wouldnt buy inferior or superior products being offered by other companies. 7. Being Less does not make it equal. and try to get those people to do the free analysis. Our motto: Replace Primerica Term (with less expensive/better term), and invest the difference. You are not comparing apples to apples. I have seen the checks on policies that were higher. Is death the only way to stop income flow to a family? An example of this is You sell you house to someone, do you keep paying for homeowners insurance on it. Even I know that training is not on Term insurance only. Tom, you said, by the way in past posts you have said you were an agent. I just do not want to sign something that I will regret. So its not as high and it will never be as high because our system works on the Agents becoming financially Independant by helping MANY families do the same, not getting paid BIG commissions on one or two clients and the rest of the time playing golf like most of the industry does. Doing so means that you will lose the client. (By the way, I have a E350 2008 and love it). >> i have a cousing who help me to get in to these bussiness, which i really do not like, he explained me only how could i make a lot of money. In fact when we talk about the the other side, the dark side, we say they Sell to Sell which its even worse. BY FAR DO NOT QUIT WHAT YOU ARE DOING YOU ARE THE BEST. This is the number one reason why we have this problem with financial industries. Please prove me wrong on what it covers. Point is sources that have biases is not good. (Over 1.5 times) Maybe you need the post again. Im sure the writer is a nice guy, but I would like my 5 minutes back pls. That does not make sence because females live longer than men. If you are saying Car and Home owners insurance, again your information is dated and obsolete. The people who make it big recruit and teach how to get referals. And as a client I want someone to watch the store, to be full-time. Sorry for getting to this post so late as you know, Ive been busy. I could be very knowledgable of fixed annuities. truly have your own company (as opposed to a branch of PFS), outside business interests, no annual auditing, no conventions that are useless and cost a ton of money, free reign to do advertising (billboards, Internet, newspapers etc), no requirement to maintain an office. Product knowledge helps, belief in the product helps. Do you think they would allow him to do that if he had any problems. They can provide you with a name and number of people who do insurance to investments and they do it the proper way. If the person gets paid to do that, so what. I bet not. Oh wait go back and change the premium from annual to monthly..Maybe now you will get why some of us left. Want a job in this industry? Now I would never ride in a Yugo. And Since My Dad was trained as an Engineer, and taught me many things about it I am an engineer. You said, So basic economics say that the companies you work for, either pay to much and will ahve to short cut on services, or are possibly going out of business. Most of the agents I talk to in my business, love being captive. When I was at PFS we always heard recruits=sales. They made a choice. Like I keep telling you Price really only matters in the absence of value. Where did you get that idea that ROP is bad and you can do better with a policy Page Perrys attorneys are actively involved in representing institutional and individual investors in auction-rate securities cases. Why is the starting commission level 25% for new agents? What do Primeica agents do in a situation when Primerica Life wont offer coverage? You agree that this restriction is a fair and reasonable way to help protect the PFSHMIs customer base against unfair competition. The matrix also includes Level 0 which, in our opinion, equals a Trainee-level Software Engineer. Remember the 6 rules in the policy. And that would mean your clients in those ROP, will never see their money. To advance in commission levels by having recruiting requirements ot having an option of recruiting and the ability to advance from persoanl production? Bad-mouthing other agencies is ILLEGAL. I am looking at Primerica now. Need life insurance for your whole life. Lastly, many people who join MLM companies do not make it BIG. That is what you advocate. Depending on the integrity of the rep you concur with depends on what you get. Conversion means you convert it to permanent insurance. Immediate Ownership: Well the IRS says you are a business owners, but you say they are not. You never got your securities licenses, and therefore you are completely driving blind when it comes to Primerica. Who are you serving, your pocket book or your client? Now health is important, but your finances are equal to , if not greater. (Correct me if im wrong)..Outside Primerica and writing agent can earn renewals. Plus, with all the extra driving to the team meetings alone, my gasoline bill was really adding up. aas The only difference is that I am an informed client not one of your clients that are price focused. Do you know it was illegal for Christians to make any money on the money they loaned to people. Products and the contract. Following termination of this Agreement, this provision will be limited to prohibiting your soliciting, directly or indirectly, Primerica Life insurance purchasers only when all four of the following additional criteria are met: Not available in Canada, Puerto Rico or Guam. But if you are recruiting people to sell things that are not good for the people you are selling to, then you are a predator. 35 year guaranteed term Youre not only one with pathetic leadershipthere have been a few whove succeeded at PFS even with horrible leadership at first (Lisa Jones, Chris Howard, Shane Rudman, etc) but you also didnt quit cuz you atleast used whatever (might be bitterness, who knows?) Did you know that, I have guaranteed insurability with Primerica. I am a business owner, that trains sales people. 2. Not a soul. Who would like to have a sales force that cost them nothing to equip, cost them no medical or insurance cost, no benefits cost, no office rents, just paying the commissions. Securities License, $400.00+. And Because you have licenses does not mean you cant be a crook. Is the money different? More power to them. No disrespect to anyone. Your licenses. Wrong, btu then again you are not the sharpest tool in the shed. This ought to be good. See, I said OFFER! Other companies are in direct competitition for new green agents. It can work, and if you are extremely careful you may not get burned. That term policy can be converted and the funds used for maybe a LTC policy, ans Annuity, or whatever. Or would you take the work and see if you can get it cheaper? I wish everyone in Primerica well. Master's of Science in Nursing (MSN) There are several types of master's degrees in nursing. But then again you still paid more, and are giving and getting less. And Amway/Quixtar is soap. When I did my last policy comparison, the competition was coming in a hair cheaper. Until Primerica came on the scene, term was sold as an after thought. 2. My friend is very knowledgable about finances so this is why Im on the fence about this. Were you one of those RVPs that were asked to relinquish the contract for problems. But to quote my favorite line, Remove the plank from your eye. yes it is from the Bible. I did not sign a non-compete agreement. Company B: $590 anuually It is good for lump some money you want to have deferred tax payments on it. The Mortgage appointment has been around for many years. Most brokers do this so they do not lose the clients they have. Let me explain. Well nothing is truly guaranteed. . Would you like to set predators like that onto your family? Then considering they will be bringing along a already licensed team from what they built on the outside they can ask for a higher commission level from the recruiting RVP. No, they use their house as a piggy bank, and then whine when they run out of equity. Get more names that say the same thing. But keep selling the cheap no value term. Third one is continuing education. Most of the companies I looked at of the years give you a loan, that you have to pay interest on. Second how much training do you need to fill an application? Taking out a Cash Value loan that does not get paid back by either choice or death of primary covered person reduces the life insurance proceeds in an amount equal to the cash value loan balance. Since it is not good for the client, why do you sell to companies that have a conversion ability? If they say no way Jose, I set up my own deal with them and go on. some companies do price and underwrite differently. See its all about options to fit the needs of the client. Be a grown-up and share your experience with the disclaimer that while I wasnt able to achieve the amount of success that I wanted to, you are not me, and your experience may differ. But wait He and James are the only two I have ever heard of that saying independent is so great. Why would I lie? Does the agent wish to offer med sups? They must have been trying to follow the trend. Ive NEVER stated that Primerica was a better vehicle than the one you now use. I guess you never expected someone to read it, just take your word. But would you feel safe if your Brakes on the car only worked some of the time? Well have you ever heard of a Funeral Trust? By the way Custom Advantage is what I have. dont get emotional about any company, because at the end of the day its business and thets the way they look at it. If the policies are so good, why do you have to spend that much? It sounds more and more like Tom is a chick. All in all your position severly lacks many areas. I have seen the training, and it is either lies, or it is lacking. How do you think the christians think about them? Or that since they do annual FNA, that my accounts are not being managed? If you dont like that then dont do it I decided if im going to do this kind of work itll be with primerica and nobody else anyway. What else do you ahve to pay? Which brings up another question. No company will ever sell anything that knows it will never make a profit. So please, enlighten me as a non-Primerica yet open-minded person what is stopping you from joining? What happens, faithful reader, is that Primerica was never on this side of the argument before. i used primerica to get my licenses, then switched to a different business model. Another way you get paid is via bonuses and incentives ( once or twice a year their a pool of money that pays varying bonuses to people reaching certain production goals usually rainging form $300 to several thousand bucks..just cuz you got up and worked. True its possible to start your own independent office and make more money than starting with primerica and working your way up. Ive been in PFS for about a year and a half. The only group that does need to worry about this are the rich 2%. You asked why selling only PFS is bad. Its just a small fee to go back to PFS. You mean getting all the licenses? The referrals that come from field training appointments go toward building the list of clients that new person has to set appointments with after getting licensed- (p.s. Since then I have had 4 increases an coverages, and 2 reductions in premiums. So I think this person is just drumming up dirt to muddy the waters. But using Cash value for this is stupid. That is how you replace Cash value. Williams. You get an override when people below you sell a policy. Cause it is apparent you do not know how to read. How do you sleep? Please stick to facts. Since the government gives the tax benefits to Primerica Agents, I guess you are wrong here too.. Now you may say what is so bad with that, Matter of fact James says it is perfectly ok. WebForgot My Password . Theres a reason they have unisex pricing. (Sometimes even tax free. You see it every Sunday in the advertisements. HR So a new person pays the low cost of $99.00 and then has to give up a leg. outside they can. How can you say you are looking out for your clients wehn you sell fixed annuities and term that has the only option of converting to keep it? And this is a Christian Website. I shoudl know I am a business owner. Number 3: I, too am open-mindedthrough and through. I could go on for days about the positive things that this company does. You said 99% of the time you sell good policies. then again It could be working with people who always wants to take your work and use it to get something cheaper. Remind me of a saying You know how you know when a salesperson, or Michael is lying? So they are not doing anything illegal, but it is unethical. But its happened how its happened and cool. Now since both have the same licenses and have to follow the same rules of Education, why woudl anyone go to a person who may not have his best interest at heart when he makes the call. Most sales people have forgotten whose interests should be looked after first. . This is how the Insurance companies fleeced the middle american family. They would see a company that was taking its jobs over seas and then not buy from them. You tell me which is better? The option that you are talking about is to have some extra money to takle care of them. -. How about WebCe? Again, some carriers have ROP select a term to meet your clients needs. Technorati Tags: Primerica, Multi level marketing. This is coming from that suicide that was directly caused by the mother of the ex friend. Remember before you answer your an independent contractor with PFS, not an employee. just one product. No. I was responding to Tom from his comments to the blog that I posted on July, 26, 2008 from James @ 9:26 pm. By the way how many mirrors do you have in your house? And since the late 1970s over half of the insurance companies have gone out of business. That way the Annuity can pay the policy premium and at end of Term the person can get all of their premiums back. Policy. Class for this License. First most of their people are not Stupid 18 year olds but fathers and mothers looking for a better way. You can use the ROP as an investment tool while protecting the family. But isnt the main point of owning a business is to have a key. Regarding the incident in Bountiful, UT, if the reps and RVP committed a crime, they should be punished. Then theres the tried and true, once upon a time You might as well have chosen one of those names. A couple things he failed to mention. AIG American General Life Hell its how you got startedeven if you felt you needed to venture out and try a different system? Its sooooooooooooooooooooooo good to be free. Are those agents from PFS? Another thing I notice the PFS FNA lacks is that it tells them a FIN using hypothetical values while I can used guaranteed ones because you have no access to FIAs. The difference. But then goes on to spew supposed information about how Primerica works! Before I say anything about my experiences here, Ill let you know about me. But how do you get the money on those policies. Dave Ramsey, Suze Orman, the list goes on. Primerica wants to be the best, and you cant do that being CHEAP. That is a lot of help. They might be posting, and then getting contacted. 6. You can run with PFS if thats the company for you, but if want to get big. If you are taking someone getting 0 to 3% rate of return and show them how to get 8% or more, that is education. I am glad you can bring in everyone. How about the work is it any different? G stands for General. As for the BMW, it is nice and it is not leased. And I look for value. And since you have admitted that Primerica Life is better since it has guaranteed insurability, and yours do not Primerica life gives you more value. How many (average) americans have $25k to invest or can afford to pay you/reputable companies 1500.00-2,500.00 or more for your services. He acted just like you, saying the father wanted these policies. The Primerica policy is 88.33 for the male and since it is a unisex policy it is 88.33 for the female.

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