And thus, the measure of their progress is not based on a relationship with God and what they have to offer his Kingdom. For them, all it takes is about 2 minutes of eastern style meditation and youre floating away. Retrieved June 10, 2018. (But the few Spanish and Portuguese podcasts are still up, so who knows.). Michael's relationship status is married. That broadens my understanding. And honestly, the elephant in the room is: I remember reading this recently (already had it marked) because I am studying Isaiah right now, and he has it completed backwards and is taking it out of context. Second, Stroud suggested that the Lord inspired this podcast series for a specific audience, and he asked for help reaching that audience. Visions of Glory: One Man's Astonishing Account of the Last Days [John Pontius] on Amazon.com. by ransomme August 21st, 2021, 12:12 am, Post Rush was the first LDS scholar to accurately decipher the prophetic writings of Ezra now known as Ezra's Eagle. Rather, he continually and fervently directs listeners to seek the spirit, keep the commandments, follow the prophets, study the scriptures, attend the temple, ponder, pray, fast, and serve one another. I think it is called The Church of the Firstborn. Obey the eternal Lord and Savior of all the world? I also have listened to all of Mikes podcasts multiple times and have learned a great deal from them. Did you think to ask Father in heaven to forgive you of your sin in the name of Jesus Christ? All I can say is in the end it will all work out. And the whole time they dont realize the illusion that they are creating. Where he is mistaken then we are all in it together, a better thing than a church with many heads and no direction. Its cool, Scoot. These are the scriptures of the common man not of the elite. Infact, what Bryson noted was that at the same time she was the most loved person in class she was also the most hated. When will they return? On the other hand, if Mike actually was divinely inspired to share that podcast, then Ill stand corrected. Ive had plenty of dealings with Kimberly and her associates on social media. Choosing a selection results in a full page refresh. In Elder Oaks talk Be Not Deceived he also did not teach that we should fear deception. I quite like Michael Rush. If they testify to the reality of the spiritual world and that the gifts of the spirit may be enjoyed in this life they get the modern equivalent of being burned at the Stake. They mean well so it doesnt occur to them that odd and peculiar can be pretty damn good. Its mostly just a lot of fluff with not much meat to satisfy the arguments. Visit Author Central to update your books, profile picture, and biography. Michael and Amy began their career in the San Francisco Bay Area working for Ernst & Young, and started raising their family of six children. In modern times we are seeing Kimberly and her associates making the same claim. If the 144,000 really are a club that pat each other on the back for their superior knowledge while condemning us gentiles for our weaknesses, then they can have their club, I will stand with the man and woman who love me in my weaknesses and join with them to bear each others burdens as we seek to improve our ability to love one another as Christ and God have loved us. That was her discernment and no more should have been needed. As growing up in the 60s and 70s these stories were faith building. Unfortunately, some Church members have viewed groups they considered to be Lamanites with condescension or contempt, (Lamanite Identity, Church History Topic), Mary Ann has blogged at Wheat and Tares since 2015. or. I further testify that we truly glorify Him with love, patience, understanding, tolerance, compassion forsaking judgment, fear, guilt, hierarchies, comparison, competition, contention, and control. Because of the higher calling that theyve appointed themselves to, all other rules can be ignored. Follow this link to a Book of Mormon discussion on the moral fiber of the Stripling Warriors "Talking Scripture" Alma 53-63. Astral projection is basically when someones spirit consciously leaves their body and then returns. He gave an address at an end-times conference in Arizona last November on Accessing the Fullness of the Atonement of Jesus Christ through Personal Revelation. At the end of the presentation, he announced that he would be starting a new podcast series on the Book of Mormon, and the Lord wanted the podcasts translated into Spanish. Bro. Michael Rush currently lives in Franklin, TN; in the past Michael has also lived in Draper UT. That by itself, of course, wouldnt make such an instruction appropriate, but it would authorize an excommunication for Mormon-speak apostacy. Thank you, Kimberly. I know this guy and many others like him .The bulk have been excommunicated because they testify to the very thing that our present Special Witnesses refuse to do, that is having the promise of D and C93:1 fulfilled in this life. Scootb28, I admire your own zeal for Zion and Im with you on that. This to me is in direct opposition to living to truly love your neighbor and embodying Christ-like love in all our interactions with one another. Michael passed away in December 2019. I am a better disciple of Christ, and I have grown closer to him. Michael B. The church does not regulate claims per se (IMO) but rather who is authorized to speak for God. But when you weigh Mikes errors against those of his accusers with all their hypocrisy, fearmongering, deception and intimidation tactics there is really no comparison. . by mes5464 August 20th, 2021, 8:57 am, Post Praying Mike and Margie make it through this struggle much stronger. All you have to do just read what was actually said and the authors deception is right there. The Lord warned us this would be a problem in the last days. Includes Address(5) Phone(4) Email(1) See Results. Alma 12 clearly teaches to seek after knowledge, and to him who does not harden his heart, will be given the mysteries of God. Generally speaking people who advance in true knowledge and understanding, and lets presume Brother Stroud is one such, grow in learning to recognize what I call the fingerprints of God that identify a particular spiritual experience as originating from God. This situation is not unique and at the end of the story, Bryson shared with us is a universal constant of the fallen world we live in. He was born and raised in the Western United States, among the rugged Wasatch mountains, and the rural California coastline. Hardening rural white listeners and weaponizing white male grievance. Stroud that he has been excommunicated and called an apostate, and is so harshly judged by so many. This reminds me of the community of people who experience Near Death Experiences. scootd28: I wish it were more readily accepted to talk about sacred things without pushback. Then, lets take it a step further. He posted a video yesterday with his take on the infamous Covid email. Can I be so sure of my own revelations? Brother Skys comments are not without a sound of legitimacy, however, perhaps a couple more points might add to the discussion. And then Christ goes and talks about all being one , and that eternal life is to KNOW HIM in John 17. It sort of robs you of the joy of giving when you are really just complying with your selfish childs wish list. This flies in the face of their favorite social media montras Follow the prophet! So apparently we should always follow the prophetexcept for them when a prophet says something they disagree with and then they can toss it outbut for the rest of us, we have to hold strict adherence. In my prayers I give thanks for what I have and very seldom ask for anything. by h_p August 20th, 2021, 7:53 am, Post Despite his constantly bearing testimony of the brethren he read the B of M like Nibley did ie condemning the Gentiles and making the case ( which most agree with) that we LDS are the Gentiles discussed in the B of M. In his podcast on the definition of Gentiles he discusses 2 Nephi 28 and effectively says that when Nephi sees that they have ALL gone out of their way ( 2 Nephi 28;11) or Moromon 8;380 why have ye polluted the holy church of god he is talking about us in our day. The question is whether or not were at a spiritual level to be teaching that we can. I respect that he brought this to light. BUT with that a commandment to not impart to others. They believe they can see evil that others cant. by mudflap August 20th, 2021, 8:31 am, Post During 2018, Stroud experienced more intense spiritual experiences and was regularly visited by heavenly beings (Heavenly Father, Heavenly Mother, Jesus Christ, and others). They used fear all throughout this doc hoping to convince the reader that Mike Stroud is some kind of boogie man. Were living to see that it IS possible and it does happeneven the elect can be deceived when they refuse to humble themselves. Now I will write about LOVE. *FREE* shipping on qualifying offers. In my previous post, I poked a little bit at Lynn Bryson. All of us have the same promise. Many forums consider them to be problem members and some have removed them altogether. Conjectures and historical comments on others, however, simply left the question hanging. Im a big fan of moderation and pluralism, but I continue to see a lot of talk about what the Church obviously should do. Also known as Micheal Rush. As Elder Neal A. Maxwell taught, To those who have eyes to see and ears to hear, it is clear that the Father and the Son are giving away the secrets of the universe!13. So instead of making real spiritual progress, they substitute it by comparing themselves to others or worse, by putting others down. The Deseret Weekly. Evan. If they say he was talking about astral projection then he was and thats that. Wise teachers like Jesus would never tell us to be afraid because it would directly limit our ability to grow in faith and love. This is where it can be hard to find a balance. What a dilemma! If Im not mistaken one of only 2 prayers from His mouth recorded in the Bible. Copyright LastDaysTimeline.comAll Rights Reserved. If suggesting asking for Nephi et al to come visit, so-to-speak, is a bit peculiar, (and I grant that it is) Ive come to think, well, who am I to say Nephi is too busy? This man is willfully ignorant and a deceiver. To make a long story short, when things seemed hopeless, two events planted the feeling in my mind and the word was spoken. Upon concluding his mission, Michael attended and graduated from Brigham Young University with a degree in accounting and information systems. Nevertheless, by suggesting that these men have these experiences because they are prophets of God confirms an hierarchythese men are specialeven, by extension, I love them more. And now the message of this type of excommunication is that, not only are the noble and great ones given the authority to lead (hopefully to SERVE), but they are the only ones who should reach out and take hold of the awesome promises that are expounded in the scriptures. What would you people say to someone who, years ago, received very specific revelation on how to cure a vaccine injured child (think "Alma Smith" type revelation - if you don't know the Alma Smith story, look it up)? Disclaimer: Nothing on this site gives specific professional advice. Well I can say for those of us as lifers and close to retirement have all seen a culture change. Further episodes will be created solely for the benefit of his posterity, though other people may listen in if they want. I have no idea how the author come to this conclusion. including by not limited to: legal, investing, financial, medical, accounting, or any other professional advice. This journey led to a very odd place.the old apocrypha. Hierarchy is a perception of of the fallen state We perceive that it exists because of our natural eyes. Nature and the great outdoors remind us that difficult times pass. Judgment. Talk to his neighbors and ward members as I have and you will see how badly you misjudge somebody who is only crime is taking the scriptures seriously and encouraging others to do the same. I have a doubt I do anything out of love, I do things because I care. If the answer is to try to retain Millennials and Gen Z, then I say no way. As JS said we can govern ourselves and let the spirit guide. Im not sure that garment changes fit a philosophy one way or another. Clay Critter Dc, Michael B. My view was that Brother Strouds longtime service in the Church Educational System (27 years as a seminary teacher) gave him significant institutional credibility, but he was pushing more fringe teachings of latter-day gnostics (like Denver Snuffer) and end-times visionaries (like Spencer from the book Visions of Glory). Yet, they are ignored, as, apparently, are the canonized scriptures such as the Bible, BOM, and D&C. Bro. Instead they would take joy in the blessing of others and take equal joy in the blessing that God has given themselves. Michael served a mission for the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in Chile, Osorno - where he loved both the people and the breathtaking landscapes. Eleven: Daniel 11 (Understanding the Last Days Series Book 2) Book 2 of 4: Understanding the Last Days Series 295 by Michael B Rush Format: Kindle Edition Kindle Edition $9.99 Paperback $17.99 See all details We have Nephi the son of Helaman being told that whatsoever he asked would be granted because he had been true and faithful and would never ask for anything contrary to Gods will. Dave Grohl, a Neil Peart acolyte who inducted Rush into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 2013, penned a tribute to the drummer following news of Pearts death Friday. How can we discuss or share experiences if we are afraid that we will be labeled as extreme or potentially get excommunicated for seeking after what Joseph Smith taught we should all be seeking after and that is our second comforter experience. Sample Page; ; Summary. Artists, Actors, and Entertainment Figures. I do not seek GIFTS. Authors reaction: document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. The superficial milk seeking, moralistic therapeutic diesism found in the minds of those like yourself have changed the way we teach the doctrines of the gospel over the course of my life and I am greatly disappointed by your ilk. by Michael Rush Format: Kindle Edition Kindle Edition $9.99 Paperback $24.99 See all details Sold by Amazon.com Services LLC. (It even had my 2017 W&T post on Mike Stroud.) Dont be afraid of being deceived. I also have a husband that is very nervous that I listen to podcasts by people who are on the extreme edge. Your email address will not be published. It was an experience he had a seminary teacher. When youre old you can wear purple and think outside the big box occasionally, and when you do, sometimes wondrous things happen. If you've read any of Michael's books, you know you're in for a treat. From One of Many Excommunicated by WELS. Oh, I knew the feeling, but I did not know what feeling goes with the word, and I did not know the word for the feeling, and I struggled for years not knowing how to obey the Two Great Commandments since each requires a knowledge of what is love (as meant in the scripture anyway; the word has many human meanings). Based on the hundreds of private messages the Mike Stroud Podcast exposed page received from people who were seriously harmed by Mike Strouds misguided ideas of seeking to commune with spirits at 3am I can assure that the fruits of this idea were anything but positive. Those who are truly learned in the things of God have learned to recognize such and if they condemn someones claims, claiming itself being a huge red flag, they do so with an understanding and recognition of what is absent to validate the claims. This rescue brigade, to liberate and deliver the captive House of Israel throughout the nations of the world, are referred to in scripture as the 144,000. Send us comments about our Author Pages. But in the end, there is not a whole lot of substance. Bless their hearts, they grab onto something they crave or feel drawn to or whatever, and an obsessiveness follows that strains coping skills for the individuals involved, as well as family and friends who try to help them regain balance and moderation. If he gives his opinion he always clearly, clearly states it is his opinion only and is to be taken into consideration only if guided to by the spirit. 85, no.2 , The JV Club #29: nerdist.com/the-jv-club-29-cara-santa-maria/, Mahonri Young: His Life and Art; Thomas Toone, Signature Books, 1997, Learmouth, Michael (September 16, 1999). I also find it interesting that they are so condemning of teachers in the online community who they feel have inappropriately and without authority called themselves to teach. (Discovery Channel) 25 Feb 2021. So what exactly is the fruit of Mike Strouds podcasts? A Remnant Shall Return - 2020 Edition: A Study of the Restoration of the House of Israel (Understanding the Last Days Series Book 1), 1996-2023, Amazon.com, Inc. or its affiliates. I love the gospel of Jesus Christ, His atoning sacrifice. But that is my own evolution, and is in no way precipitated by anyone speaking from a voice of authority. I think his cognitive dissonance is almost to a breaking point. Perhaps, Id better serve my own desire for Zion by showing more zeal instead of being pessimistic. He even said the church is basically responsible for distributing the Book of mormon while Mike and his podcasts were used by God to GATHER THE ELECT. He is the Author of The "Last Days" Timeline and website. Anything God wants you to know is either (1) already in scripture or (2) told direct to your mind. Whether Spencer had the experience or not is irrelevant. Both are tools to measure the truth of something. when we lie down to sleep, our minds are often as bright and active as the mind of an angel, at least they are as active as when our bodies are awake. It is believing that these things are real and, as some seem to think, more important than anything, that is our biggest stumbling block to establishing Zion. Comparison. I have heard a number of accounts of people claiming to have received a personal audience with the Savior, and after some were instructed by Him to share certain things about their experience, Church leaders told them to be quiet. by h_p August 20th, 2021, 10:24 am, Post Thanks for your input, Scootd28. They will range over the earth, visit distant friends, and, for aught we know, the planets, and accomplish great feats; do that which will enhance our happiness, increase to us every enjoyment of life, and prepare us for celestial glory; but when we wake in the morning, it is all gone from us; we have forgotten it.. And because Mikes accusers used it so much, it puts into question where the source of their inspiration comes from. I have enjoyed reading all of the comments. Its okay that Wilford Woodruff had the vision of the founding fathers asking him why their work wasnt done (even though it had been done previously) but its not okay if someone else has them? 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